How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

What is your most erotic sex story?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

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then who is there to know what happens without?

Now here in this verse

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

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Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

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ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

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Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

If a narcissist can't feel remorse, can they ever feel regret for an evil act after going to rehab?

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

I dreamt my mother had died and I cried so much in my dream. What does it mean?

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

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Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

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— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

NOW…

CONCLUSION:

Kabir (a weaver)

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

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I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Sain (a barber)

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

I am like a fish out of water,

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!